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Sky Popcrons

Local name: Sky Popcorns

D. Morant

Matches: 259

Blocks: 1,2

C. Obarenes

Matches: 208

Ranking: 23,3

Points: 15,3

Rebounds: 8,9

Blocks: 1,5

Steals: 1,6

T. Takenouchi

Matches: 14

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Club is not managed

Period of activity	2020-01-15 - 2020-11-16
Country	Lithuania

Statistics

Overall wins/matches played

0 - 0


International tournament	1	0
National tournament	2	2
Total	3	2

Lietuva.3.1	11 Place x 1
World League.3.4	13 Place x 1

Lietuva.3.1	11 Place
World League.3.4	16 Place

SkyPop

-- 79 S 29 d.

The club was closed

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SkyPop

Player: Dominic Morant (RT: 179)

-- 78 S 63 d.

Player's contract ended

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SkyPop

Player: Tian Huang Chen (RT: 256)

-- 78 S 63 d.

Player's contract ended

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SkyPop

Player: Zhu Wei (RT: 247)

-- 78 S 63 d.

Player's contract ended

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3.3 3.4 BC Ubagai

Trade/Lending players: BC Ubagai & Pliusinė

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Team made a trade offer

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Player:

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 77 S 1 d.

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Player: Rookie Chicken

Started to play in a new team after a trade -- 77 S 1 d.

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Pliusinė

Trade offer accepted -- 77 S 1 d.

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GOD神

这种交易也能行？？市场恶意竞价，结果对方没匹配，买到了不需要的球员，为了降低损失，搞了个降薪交易？？ -- 77 S 1 d.

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GOD神

如果这种交易不被惩罚，那只能说明立陶宛社区有特权，中国社区许多类似交易被惩罚并关号。 -- 77 S 1 d.

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And we hear that from the guy who destroys the market with unrealistic offers? Expected Chicken to be better, he did not match my expectations, had to search for another big (trade will be done in nearest time). Not a salary cut, because I got a future asset and will have to pay salary for him all season. -- 77 S 1 d.

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我希望 -- 77 S 1 d.

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8.74 打酱油的国王

如果是中国人早就被处罚了 -- 77 S 1 d.

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benislovas

And just to notice - this trade is between 2 10 level trade restriction managers. -- 77 S 1 d.

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1.1 1.1 Mirza

Naujas kinų bajaris, net nebesivargina angliškai rašyti, o putas pila heroglifais. -- 77 S 1 d.

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2.1 2.1 Kipras_Justas

Bet Darius pakeitė vertimo sistemą, tai visai neblogai ir verčia :D -- 77 S 1 d.

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1.1 2.2 HeyHoudini

o tai š1tą išv3rs? Jeigu n3, tai ap3iti irgi h3roglifais gali xD -- 77 S 1 d.

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1.1 1.1 事出无常必有妖

所以这就是立陶宛球队越来越强的原因吗哈哈哈哈哈 -- 77 S 1 d.

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没有工资限制就是扯蛋 -- 77 S 1 d.

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1.1 4.5 bananajohn

if this is not going to be reverted then would be interesting to know why. -- 77 S 1 d.

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As always some teams are privileged to do trades how ever they want at no rules applies to them. Well done to trade commite mafia. Last time I said this about trade commite I was banned from press conference. North Korea treatment haha -- 77 S 1 d.

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benislovas

Once again - it was allowed for everybody to invest and get 10 level restriction benefits. -- 77 S 1 d.

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1.1 1.1 Gudrioji Lape

Why is it bad? Which side gets advantage? Older much stronger player for longer term investment. I will repeat my opinion that trades are viewed too strictly, both by FPC and by game system itself, thats why we have many dissapointments and feelings that its unfair. Such restrictions as 30-50 rt difference is quite absurd -- 77 S 1 d.

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1.1 4.5 bananajohn

benislovaas does lvl 10 means 50k can be changed for 17k? I dont say its bad and have nothing against it. I done myself trades like this, seen others do and get reverted. I just want to know where the boundaries are. Is that you both from same WL? Because of trades lvl 10? Is that none of the sides gets big advantage? If its the latter that would rise even more questions for me but not gina expand that here. -- 77 S 1 d.

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GOD神

Even if 10 level restriction must comply with the fairness of the transaction -- 77 S 1 d.

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Restrictions were created by GM, so only he could answer.
In this case I do not agree that trade is salary dump. Kerbeda could not be fired so I will pay almost the same amount as firing Chicken. -- 77 S 1 d.

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Stormtrooper

The main problem in this case is that on one hand GM talks about "fair play", but on the other hand just several teams have level 10 trade restrictions (lets say without any limits), which is probabbly the most unfair part in this game. (And I must agree with bananajohn - no boundaries of level 10 trades are given in any rules. But probabbly all trade&FPC system doesn't have any boundaries, so why we should be suprised...)
And answering benislovas "investment" opinion - if you were not a player of Basketpulse yet at the time update was being prepared, or if you were just a begginer with no understanding of trades - you now have pretty big gap competing against other teams. -- 77 S 1 d.

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Cmon guys, try to count trades between 10 level managers - one hand fingers will be enough easily. -- 77 S 1 d.

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Stormtrooper

Does that mean those managers do not have hude advantage against competitors? :D -- 77 S 1 d.

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Huge? Not at all. In my opinion 10 level comes with responsibility also. Never made very wild and one sided trade by myself, never saw that doing others also. -- 77 S 1 d.

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Stormtrooper

Nice resposibility when trading players with 100RT difference. Try to look from any other club point off view. If this restriction wouldn't apply at 50RT, how many more trade options managers would have do you think? 10 times more? 20 times more? or maybe 30 times more? For sure I wouldn't have only 1 trade during my 12 season of Basketpulse career, I can guarantee you that. -- 77 S 1 d.

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3.3 3.4 darys

Tau nepatinka, kad vk skiriasi per 100? Tokių mainų yra pilna, tik apeinant taisykles dažnai yra pridedamas niekam nereikalingas žaidėjas, dažnai senukas, kuris po savaitės būna atleidžiamas. Ir niekam tas nekliūna. O šiuo atveju, kadangi mainų levelis leidžia, tai be jokių nereikalingų žaidėjų 1x1 apsimainyta ir jau skandalas. :D -- 77 S 1 d.

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Stormtrooper

Turiu prisipažinti, kad mainų neseku (kaip kai kurie čia), pasižiūriu tik tuos, kur įsiplieskia diskusijos spaudos konferencijose. Bet man sunku patikėti tavo pasakymu, kad praeina mainai neatitinkantys mainų ribojimo lygių, nes kiek pamenu sistema tiesiog neleidžia pasiūlyti mainų jeigu neatitinka mainų lygio apribojimai, ar ne taip? Kitu atveju, kam tada būtų skirti tie apribojimai? -- 77 S 1 d.

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2.1 2.1 Kipras_Justas

Taip, neleidžia, bet gi būna kai žemos lygos žaidėjas išmaino ten 14kinį talentą į du dvidešimtmečius kurie yra žymiai didesnio VK ir tiesiog tas klubas, kuris maino 14kinį prideda žaidėją tik dėl VK skirtumo, nors tas žaidėjas kitai komandai visiškai nereikalingas. Tai taip ant popieriaus gaunasi kad mainomų žaidėjų VK nesiskiria, bet iš tiesų skiriasi labai, nes tas pridėtas žaidėjas dėl VK skirtumo labai dažnai būna atleistas. -- 77 S 1 d.

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3.3 3.4 darys

Aš ką tik tau paaiškinau kaip vyksta tokie mainai ir tu vistiek klausi kaip? Mainų neseki, bet išreikšt savo poziciją ten kur neturi kompetencijos, tai pirmas? :D -- 77 S 1 d.

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Stormtrooper

Kodėl manai, kad žaisdamas šį žaidimą 12 sezonų neturiu kompetencijos? Aš apie tai ir kalbu, kad eiliniam mirtingajam pirmiausia reikia nusipirkti šiukšlę iš rinkos, kad galėtum prasukti kažką panašaus. Ar ta šiukšlė pasiteisins ar ne - loterija (gal nepataikysi su alga, gal su VKgal su įgūdžiais ir t.t.). O čia imi ir suki kaip nori, be jokių limitų. Nesvarbu nei VK, nei algos, niekas. Ir nesirišu aš konkrečiai prie šitų mainų, kalbu apskritai apie pritaikytą sistemą, kad keletas klubų turi pranašumus kurių kiti žaidėjai net negali įsigyti. Ir tuo pačiu kalbama kaip daromi patobulinimai gerinti "fair play". Paradoksas, ar nemanai? -- 77 S 1 d.

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benislovas

Nemanau. -- 77 S 1 d.

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1.1 4.5 bananajohn

o man įdomiau rezultatas bus fpc, vistiek kažkas report bus paspaudes, triukšmo daug nes viskas vyksta aukščiausiam lygyje ir abu veikėjai ryškūs :) jei nepraeis tai tada kam reikalingas tas 10lvl :) jei praeis tai vienz suds ne fpc tada siam zaidime yr... -- 77 S 1 d.

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benislovas

Yra reportas, per 10min atsirado. -- 77 S 1 d.

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Kiek zinau FPC buvo sukurtas po itartinu keepsmile mainu kovoti pries sukciavima, tai toks ir turetu buti pagrindinis tikslas FPC, apskritai ne vienus mainus mes matem kurie verti revertinimo ir nebuvo revertinti, o sitie mainai mano akimis yra normalus, ir mato cia problema nebent tik tie kas pavydi. Taip kad ir mano siulymas butu kad FPC labiau ziuretu mainus apskritai kokie vykdomi, ir bandytu sumazinti nesaziningu mainu kieki, o ne tik tuos kurie reportinti, nes sitie dalykai labai dideles diskusijas kelia, apskritai reiktu kazkokiu nauju taisykliu ir apibrezimu mainuose ir ju traktavime, nes manau kad sitas dalykas po truputi tampa nebekontroliuojamas, na arba tik man taip atrodo. -- 77 S 1 d.

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sharass666

kontroliuojamas tikrai,jau tampa tradicija kad sezono 1diena atliekami kazkokie idomesni mainai apie kuriuos isdiskutuojama iki negalejimo,praeita sezona kiek pamenu CO bande varkes nesekmingai sukt. -- 77 S 1 d.

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Jo, labai kontroliuojamas, FPC sprendimai neaiskus ne visada tokie patys, ir visada pilna nepatenkintu... tai zinoma kontroliuojama, paziuresim kai bus kontroliuojama kai paliks sita zaidima tie del kuriu jis dar gyvuoja.
CO mainai praeita sezona nebuvo sukciavimo atvejai, zmogus norejo susimazinti algas, bet negalejo, as asmeniskai kazka del to daryciau... 10 mainu LYGIS BY THE WAY -- 77 S 1 d.

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Stormtrooper

Žmonės ne pavydi, žmonės nori lygių teisių :) -- 77 S 1 d.

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3.3 3.4 vialis

Nu jei Benka sako kad jam atleidimas tiek pat kainuotu kiek islaikyt ten ta kazkoki didmeistri tai gal ir normaliai, bet ar nera ten kazkokio priomo kad ten turi atleist zaideja o ne kazkam padet? Nes Dareliooo cia belekaip sustipreja, nors realiai man tai Spaudos konferencijos žinutė paslėpta (federacijos savanorio arba administratoriaus)

O siaip tik noriu primint kad yra siaip 10lvl tada yra caru 10lvl ir co 10 lvl kur biciuka max baudzia -- 77 S 1 d.

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sharass666

CO kazkaip nepatenka i caru bendruomene -- 77 S 1 d.

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3.3 3.4 vialis

uoj tikrai ne, be variantu -- 77 S 1 d.

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Stormtrooper - Del to ir sakau, kad reik per nauja tvarkyti sita dalyka, nes kol bus pora zmoniu kurie turi 10 lygio mainus, kai kiti tuo tarpu neturi ir negali gauti net 8 LYGIO MAINU, sita diskusija nesibaigs, tai ties sita vieta zaidimo administracija turetu isiterpti ir arba kazka pertvarkyti arba pasakyti kas yra kas. -- 77 S 1 d.

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Fair play committee

This trade was reported as unfair. However, the Fair play committee decided that this trade is fair. -- 77 S 1 d.

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Fair play committee

How the Fair Play Committee members voted: 
- volunteers voted "Revert and punish": 0 
- volunteers voted "Revert": 2 
- volunteers voted "Fair": 7 
 
These reasons were chosen by the volunteers during voting: 
1 - Salary drop (one or more useful players are exchanged for useless player(s) with the only goal to reduce salaries) 
1 - Suspicion that trade’s goal is to help one of the teams 
 
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sharass666

taip jau yra,vieni suka varkes kokias nori su 10lvl kiti su 10lvl revertus gaudo. -- 77 S 1 d.

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1.1 4.5 bananajohn

when fair is not fair... :) fpc is pointless more than ever before :) -- 77 S 1 d.

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8.74 打酱油的国王

自己人投票怎么会被否定，中国人如果这样交易10票否定。How can one's own vote be denied? If the Chinese trade in this way, 10 votes will be negative. -- 77 S 2 d.

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GOD神

when fair is not fair... :) fpc is pointless more than ever before :) -- 77 S 2 d.

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1.1 1.1 事出无常必有妖

这就是所谓的公平？ -- 77 S 2 d.

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fpc says we don't cheat in Lithuania, so we vote legally for the deal unconditionally -- 77 S 2 d.

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2.1 3.2 fourkings

很多被关闭的中国俱乐部，并没有做到这个程度，却受到了严厉的惩罚。你们哪怕有那么一丁点的廉耻，也不会做出这样的决定。还好我早已经不需要通过交易壮大自己，因此也不用跟你们这群瞎子一般见识。 -- 77 S 2 d.

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达摩克利斯之剑

呵呵，真是个笑话 -- 77 S 2 d.

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8.74 打酱油的国王

这个游戏我们不再团购买信用点是正确的，花钱好要被针对，所谓公平就是笑话，公平只是更好处罚中国人的理由，毕竟如果再不针对，国际一联就变成中国联赛了。In this game, it is right for us to stop buying credit points. If we spend money well, we should be targeted. The so-called fairness is a joke. Fairness is just the reason to punish the Chinese better. After all, if we don't target it again, the League of first nations will become the Chinese League. -- 77 S 2 d.

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Press message hidden by federation volunteer or administrator -- 78 S 61 d.

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Sky Popcrons

Local name: Sky Popcorns

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